They also drew from classic influences. “We took bigger swings,” he continues, “with the drum sounds, drawing from records like All Things Must Pass—especially in the way the snare, tambourine, and percussion sit in those big, roomy reverbs.”

The shared creative language with producer Sean Silverman allowed these ambitions to come to life. “He shared those influences. I could reference ‘Ballad of Sir Frankie Crisp,’ and he’d immediately get it and want to dive into the details. That made it really exciting to explore those sounds.”

That balance, with all its structure and risk, extends to the album’s perspective.

“I set out to write from a very personal and introspective place throughout. Even when it sounds like I’m talking to different characters or using another voice, it’s all from my perspective. (A song like) ‘Half a Spark’ could easily be glossed over as a Bonnie and Clyde-style ‘let’s get out of here’ story, but it’s really all internal… it’s literally just me talking to myself.”

Rather than offering a sense of closure, the album leans into repetition.

“It’s just that tiresome, cyclical thing: ‘I’m anxious and can’t be in the moment. Okay, let’s try mindfulness and gratitude. Now I’m back to feeling anxious… how does this keep happening?’” he says, laughing at the absurdity of it all.

Instead of resisting that cycle though, O’Callaghan reframes it in a much more positive light. “Every day that you’re alive, I think that’s another chance at trying to ‘get it right’… whatever that means,” he reflects. “There are so many beneficial and beautiful things that can be discovered through the struggle, and it’s always a work in progress.”

The turning point came with “It’s Not Over Yet,” one of the stand-out and cornerstone tracks on the new album. “I had written a lot of songs prior to writing that song, and I had this idea of what the record sounded like in my head. Once I wrote ‘It’s Not Over Yet,’ I abandoned all the other songs and that was square one,” he recalls.

“It’s my favourite song on the record for a lot of reasons, but one is that it was the catalyst for the album’s sound. It helped strip away some of the varnish we’d built up over previous records. It was a great opportunity to remove some of that polish—and that’s when I had the ‘aha’ moment. I realized the sound we wanted was achievable because of that song.”

Joy Next Door, as a complete piece of art, ends up being a reflection on life’s many dualities. O’Callaghan even draws parallels from his domestic environment.

“There’s a park I grew up going to, which is now the park I take my kids to. The house my wife and I bought ended up being just six streets away from the one I grew up in, and that’s where the album title comes from. The park after dark can be unsettling, but during the day, it’s magical.

“I know it sounds trite, but it really is about the journey,” O’Callaghan continues. “It’s about the struggle, but there are so many beautiful and beneficial things you can discover through it. It’s always a work in progress.”

Nearly two decades in, that’s the point. The Maine isn’t looking for resolution, but they’ve made the decision to keep going and we are so glad they did.